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@N.Morgan Good data is always good but this data is fake, at least with respect to polio, we know there have been quite a few polio deaths in Africa, so the 1-in-1trillion is surely made up bullshit. I'm not a big advocate of vaccines in general, I do think more often than not their risk outweighs their benefits, but the polio numbers just do not remotely jive with reality and the fact that they don't takes away from credibility for the remaining data.
It isn't so one dimensional anyway. The latest polio outbreaks in poor countries were from vaccine derived strains of virus. It goes like this: The Sabin vax is live virus with a couple mutations that render it weak. Give vax to child in a naive population. It replicates, the child develops immunity, but shits out live virus particles. Billions of them. Evolution runs a million times faster in viruses - a few of the particles have mutations which reverse the Sabin weakness. Other people get infected. Most of them quietly develop immunity, but polio is wildly contagious. The ones with the un-weak mutation propagate better and you have an outbreak...
Making bill gates persona non grata in many 3rd world countries...
@N.Morgan My point is simply the data is bunk so can't be trusted even though I agree with the point the author is trying to make, it would have been better if he had used valid data. Forgive me, SHE is trying to make.
Nanook
in reply to N.Morgan • •Jolly Rancher
in reply to Nanook • • •It isn't so one dimensional anyway.
The latest polio outbreaks in poor countries were from vaccine derived strains of virus.
It goes like this:
The Sabin vax is live virus with a couple mutations that render it weak. Give vax to child in a naive population. It replicates, the child develops immunity, but shits out live virus particles.
Billions of them. Evolution runs a million times faster in viruses - a few of the particles have mutations which reverse the Sabin weakness.
Other people get infected. Most of them quietly develop immunity, but polio is wildly contagious.
The ones with the un-weak mutation propagate better and you have an outbreak...
Making bill gates persona non grata in many 3rd world countries...
Nanook
in reply to N.Morgan • — (Shoreline, WA, USA) •