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Mint has at least for the past decade disabled the Mark Updates function of synaptic package manager but until 20.x it was easy to re-enable by removing one of Mint's conf files. Now that file no longer exists and I have not been able to find out how to re-enable this functionality. Can anyone tell me? Yes I realize Mint is trying to force me to use their update function, I prefer to not do so.
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I do not normally do kernel updates mid-week, I prefer to wait until Friday on the off chance something goes horribly wrong, to provide the most time to recover before the business week.
However, a serious vulnerability has been discovered in openssl and I'm going to have to reboot all the machines just to get any old copies of openssl out of memory so might as well do a kernel upgrade at the same time.
Most machines will remain on openssl 1.1.1f but it will be a patched version that fixes the exploit. The webserver with any luck will be on openssl 1.1.1k, this is just because it's already on a self-compiled version of openssl to get the most current encryptions.
Normally I would start this at 11pm Pacific Daylight Time, but because of the seriousness of this exploit, I am going to proceed as soon as I have the current software in place on all the machines but some time after 5PM PDT. The downtime for the entire system should be less than 1/2 hour and any given machine not more than about ten minutes.
The drawing forgot to mention that it is completely unconstitutional since the constitution assigns the responsibility for election laws and procedures to the State legislators.
@Dr. Hydro No actually, the little ones should learn history, math, economics, science, instead of leftist butt sex and imaginary genders. They should learn how to be productive contributing members of society, not leaches.
Farcebook does not tell me WHICH of their policies I've violated, though they seem to think this is worth a 90-day ban on posting or commenting. All I was trying to do is provide some historical perspective to what is happening in Amerika today. This is an example of why I created friendica.eskimo.com and hubzilla.eskimo.com/ and why I do not censor on these.
@John Doe Sure "they" do, the question, Who exactly are they? I'm beginning to believe there may actually be extraterrestrial involvement in the deep state.
@John Doe Oh no doubt Zionists, and not just any Zionists but Talmudic Zionists, and then also the Vatican, and then also British Royalty, and then certain sectors of the US military and NASA, and when you have these many elements involved you have to ask yourself, what is at the top?
@John Doe Here is why I think there may be extraterrestrial involvement. If you study UFO abduction cases, almost always the abductees report visions of horrible ecological disaster on our planet, then I know from NASA satellite data, world wide temperatures have only increased by 1.2C over the last 40 years, yet they exaggerate the hell out of the numbers and recently came out and said if we don't do something for in excess of the Paris climate accord, we're all doomed, this while they plot to kill a bunch of us off. How does this agenda serve humans, even rich powerful humans? My thinking is that it doesn't. I think it serves someone off world that would like our resources.
@John Doe @Dr. Hydro So if you're anti one group of people committing genocide against your neighbors, anti one group of people controlling the worlds banking and skimming wealth from it, anti one-group of people controlling all the broadcast media and big data, then you're a Nazi? I wonder if the Jews might have considered that what they were doing to Germany is what motivated the hatred against them? No don't learn from history, keep repeating the same failed experiment. If you want to talk about dumbest, that's the definition right there. I don't want to see it continued or reproduced, I don't want to see millions more killed, but unless this is stopped that is what is going to happen.
@Dr. Hydro One doesn't need to go more than about 60 seconds on youtube before finding a video from some white European woman who was gang-raped by Muslims and yet their countries keep inviting them in.
@Dr. Hydro There is a difference between being anti-semitic and anti-Jewish for the Jewish people are the ones slaughtering their Semitic Palestinian neighbors. Further there is a difference between being against a people and against their immoral actions such as siphoning the worlds wealth through the control of the worlds banking system and usary, then using that money to buy up all the broadcast media and big data so they can control the narratives. Or sexually mutilating baby boys and then some old geezer sucking their dicks. Most moral people, Jewish or non-Jewish, should find these things abhorrent. But Talmadic Jews, which while they make up a very small percentage of the Jewish population unfortunately tend to make up the majority in power, the Rabbis, the politicians, are outright evil. Talmudic Judaism is a carry over from Babylonian practices, their worship of Baal.
@Dr. Hydro Yes you are lucky, 4499 out 4500 that won't be crippled for life or 39999 out of 40000 that didn't die from it. Bully for you. Too bad about all the women who had miscarriages, or those who were breastfeeding and it killed their infants, or those who developed cerebral palsey or other severe nervous system problems, or those who suffered thrombosis or anaphylactic shock and died. But hey they're keep you safe right? Well the truth is if the vaccine was fully effective, you being vaccinated would protect you fully.
@John Doe I don't think retarded is the proper word, evil perhaps. Certainly they have little understanding of history, but they do understand how to control the world banking system, broadcast media, and big data.
@Dr. Hydro Sure they do, the violence in cities is almost exclusively in LIBERAL cities where guys where women's clothes, it is NOT found in rural areas where guys have guns because if they looted and burned there they'd be promptly put out of their misery.
@baptist_joshua_on_youtube What I learned back in elementary school, some 55 or so years ago, is that bullys don't like pain any more than you do, so even if someone is twice your size, if you inflict significant pain, even if you get the worst of it, they won't fuck with you again.
Well it is what it is. Hard to say where things will go from here. I really want to know who and what is driving all this. I mean we know players like George Soros, etc, but who is the head?
The problem is not just that people don't see him, Satan has convinced people that he, and God, do not even exist. People no longer have any moral compass, it's like everyone is practicing witchcraft, do what thine will, and the world today is the result.
The quote might be something from a sermon and '1 Peter' only a reference.
1 Pet. 5:8 (Douay-Rheims) reads 'Be sober and watch: because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, goeth about seeking whom he may devour.'.
Satan's principal sin is pride, is it not? He hides only occasionally and often considers himself a benefactor of men.
What men can watch out for and, indeed, have watched out for is inconsistencies. Mark 3:26 : 'And if Satan be risen up against himself, he is divided, and cannot stand, but hath an end.'. An ability to spot inconsistencies early is likely to help. Unfortunately, proofs are not part of many syllabi these days. Not that only Satan runs into inconsistencies; men, whatever their intentions, also do. And they also then cannot stand and fall. So they might be persuaded to pick up some logic even before considering God and Satan.
Sounds good, @Umbra Catti. But we cannot control all logic, I guess. I think sincerity and humility are most important. You recognize the bad by it's lies. I like this:
Why, @Christian Bredlow, we cannot control any logic, let alone all. We can use it -- if we've learnt it well enough; so can Satan. He's been at his tricks for a while and has picked up a fair amount of the know-how along the way. He has grown out of his youthful presumption to beat God at God's own game but not of the more recent one to beat us at God's game. Of course, you are quite right about sincerity, humility, and recognition of lies. But this is not a matter of just good intentions; it is also one of taking the trouble of thinking -- correctly -- for ourselves. Following, e.g., Pope's directions won't do -- this, I suppose, just now is more obvious than it has been for some time.
Not sure if I got you right. And English is not my native language. I meant there can always be a mistake in thinking. It's good to bear that in mind: I could be wrong, forgot some crucial factor. And I meant like... I cannot argue with anyone. I cannot try to research every question in order to find inconsistencies. Time is important. I'm losing control if I try to fight everything I feel to be bad by mere logical thinking.
For me it's the other way round: First, rather simple step, is to think myself. It's what many people have forgotten, I guess. They just believe what they're told, and don't reflect on it. It seems so obvious how logically wrong and bad from the heart so much is that we can see in front of our eyes now. But actually it's not to difficult to look for some information and do some logical evaluation. I absolutely support what you demand. Knowledge can be powerful.
But second step is to believe. And that's more difficult, I think. It can mean to somehow love and understand the people I think are being caught by some bad ways. And sometimes it helps both sides to find something that feels like good.
You know, I'm not fighting people. I try to fight what evil is. And the evil hates love. Much more than logic.
I'm sorry, I guess it was to late for me to write this comment. Hope it still makes some sense. Will go to bed. Good night.
Kipling's "If" comes to mind: 'If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you, But make allowance for their doubting too;'. This is about one's fallibility. One can miscalculate oneself or accept without checking a miscalculation of another. It is more or less clear what one can do to avoid the former error; the latter is more difficult to avoid. Yes, we have not the time to check everything. But this is not to say that we should accept everything that we do not check. If we have caught someone lying, we should expect him to lie on subsequent occasions as well. We should not accuse him -- without checking -- of lying on these subsequent occasions but neither should we believe him. Fighting is another matter; it is not often that we can do something about the ills we observe.
Checking for inconsistency is probably the easiest checking there is, and having discovered an inconsistency we can often discard a big batch of "information" -- without bothering about the motives and abilities at its source.
I may not understand your paragraph on believing. Of course, most of human lying is unintentional, and even intentional liars are not beyond redemption.
I do not think that evil always comes hand in hand with hate. Think of the millions of soldiers who have sworn to kill to order and done it. My own worst sins have not been accompanied by hate.
Yup. They opened for the Grateful Dead at Autzen Stadium in Eugene years ago. About 65,000 dead heads there. They looked nervious. It took about one song before all the dead heads "got it". Very cool.
exactly! Robert you did not check all provided info, i guess, and start react "too early" again ;) ps: i do believe they watching us already like on 3D TV also since 1990s... as part of "secret space program". the stuff they spreading from sky is nano particles which filled "space" of our "aquarium" and in same time can be also the chips (which called "smart dust") so they can track their moves in realtime even in millimeter scale, imagine that. but its only small part of this...
Robert, as i heard Trump did order by january to cia to de-classify the secret space program as no choice and gave them ninety days. so soon its must happened i do believe. i think its time to move on, its why.
@spacedream Sometimes they do what they're told, sometimes they don't. I hope they do, I really want to see us become a space faring race but I'm not holding my breath.
and many still don't trust Robert Deniro's movie Vaxxed! i posted it many times in different places and always its gone after weeks and even days. money still wining but not sane.
this money mafia of slave-owners giving first their shot of poison even in very first hours of life to your child!!!! but WHY??? he is sick already?? definately NOT! so why he need this danger shot? no one even thinking about.. just blindly obay as real slaves and brainless sheeples. baaaaaa..... so easily let murderers shuting off the brains of their perfect health children. to make them perfect slaves. and even not notices what they are just done. stupid.
its another reason (imho) why this medical mafia insists you must deliver baby at their places but not at your home. because they can give your baby shot in very first hours of life! and its will be done for sure, you want it or not. enjoy your stupidity now. who is the real killer then?
@rottostein And it might be a good estimate, but if I posted that on Facebook they would immediately counter it with something fact checked on Snopes. In my view 1500 deaths and 31000 injuries is enough cause to realize something is seriously wrong even if, and I'm sure you are right, the numbers are much higher.
but yes, 1500 deaths should wake people up. But people are generally stupid sheep. Some people still would get the jab if they knew the true death count.
I got an advert from Capital One for a credit card with 23.99% interest. Why the FUCK would they even bother sending out such ridiculous ads? Why would I pay them 23.99% when they won't pay me 1% on a savings account? What a bunch of crooks.
@baptist_joshua_on_youtube No, not a joke, all you got to do is look at who the owners of most of the reserve banks are. And no I'm not antisemitic like Israel who commits genocide against the Palestinians who ARE a Semitic people.
why you covering up the evil, @baptist_joshua_on_youtube@sysad.org. or you need to remind you how many real evil things was done by them... just in last few years? surely you even not remember or even never heard of many things cause never was in wide public news for their "slaves". and yes, bankers is most very greedy, its a fact you can't deny.
@baptist_joshua_on_youtube When God said Jews were the chosen people, what he meant was they were chosen to bring the Messiah to the gentiles, and they did through Paul who was Saul, but the rest of them did not acknowledge Jesus. God explicitly stated in the Bible that one should not charge usary, but the Jews do this to extract all the wealth from the rest of the world. And today they slaughter the Palestinians, sexually abuse children, control the international banking system, major media, big data. There is no way God can condone this kind of behavior. When you steal something, it doesn't mean God blessed you, it only means that you are a thief.
let's see the news by morning, on my clock is only 00:19 right now. on your probably still Marth 20, so its too early to say anything yet, be patient ;)
@baptist_joshua_on_youtube No, but it's not American tradition to murder infants, however it IS Jewish tradition to whack off baby boys forskins then suck the blood from their penises.
rotchilds, who killed all medical schools (more then twenty that times) hundred years ago and forced whole world to take only one their chemicals based school. they are not jews by they way? ;) anyway, after amerikkka this practices come to over globe. secret shot to newborn babies, just to shut off their light, in very first hours of life. "its good for them" they said to their parrients. and sheephead parreients answered "baaaaa" back and feel happiness. murderers they all! no exceptions. one who giving shot and others who support them. and third ones who blindly baaaaaing and accepting without any single question on their empty heads.
@spacedream When you delete your posts it is conveniently impossible to prove your words.
so why you keep blaming me again? now in try to cover up your dementia? i told you before you never listening me carefully, so now you proved it again. okay, let me remind you again about date. its right here: so yes, we getting close to the event. i hope you will be patient enough to wait for new updates even if its will be little delayed after that date. just in case. and cross your fingers.
@spacedream Well since you deleted your posts I've got no way to prove one way or the other do I? How convenient is that? And in case anyone is in doubt about that, all they have to do is put "spacedream" in the search bar and they can see that my replies to YOU are there but your original posts are gone.
@spacedream First delete your posts then unsubscribe, excellent way to back up what you say. Well, I don't know what's gonna happen when and I guess if you're sufficiently vague you can't be wrong.
WHY SO MUCH DRAMA, ROBERT? WHAT IS YOUR REAL PROBLEM? you like more to hate but not to love? i can not keep talking stupid shit again and again you forcing me for hours... its only what you really can enjoy? then i putting my ban on you back, sorry buddy. at least for next few days. and for sure you will not keep disturbing me by trigger and keep blaming on what really not important. good luck. baptist joshua can make a better company for you tonight. he really loves his slave owners, so he can tell you a lot about.
@spacedream You say something, then you say you didn't say it, then you delete all your posts so I can't go look and see if I were mistaken or not. In my memory I remember you saying on the 17th, only three days until world peace. Well it's been three days. If you didn't say that then I'm confusing you with someone else because I know someone did.
why its so important for you, Robert? WHY YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT IT? you just want confirm you don't have dementia? but its was a joke. relax, buddy. you need to relax. everything will be okay soon, believe you or not. just relax, okay? ;) ps: when you did smoke pot last time? maybe its time to find your old stash and watch the stars tonight... will talk tomorrow (or day after). no hard feelings please.
@spacedream Look I know you think I'm trying to dismiss what you were trying to communicate, I'm sorry but it made no sense, but I DID ask for clarification on an area that was in particular troublesome and you just got offended and blew up. I am curious, I have a sense that you have some sense of awareness, but I am having difficulty interpreting what you are saying and I think you may be doing some misinterpretation of your own.
Read Galatians chapter 3 and you will see that the "seed" ( one not many ) is the key and those who are in Christ are Israel and no one else. So it is by faith and that is spirit.
Galatians 3
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Romans 9
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
So many "Christians" are Jew worshipers and think that Israel is the modern day Israel and that the Jews are the inheritors of the promise but the promise was made to one "seed" and not many seeds. And that "seed" is Christ Jesus and we inherit the promise of Abraham through faith in Christ Jesus. Again, so many "Christians" think we have to support modern day Israel and Jews because they think that the Jews and the modern State of Israel are the inheritors but only those who are in Christ Jesus are the true inheritors. We who are in Christ Jesus may call God our father and we are the Children of Abraham and inheritors of the promise God made.
We are Israel and the Jews are not the children of Abraham. We are through our faith in Jesus Christ.
1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
@baptist_joshua_on_youtube @Rod Ross Jesus did say the law would be written into our hearts. In my hearts I know that skimming the wealth of the world through usary is wrong, that bulldozing peoples homes is wrong, that shooting their children is wrong, that rigging elecitons and controlling media so nobody could talk about it is wrong. It is murder, theft, and lies, all parts of the ten commandments, and Satan is the father of all lies.
The verses I gave you are clear and there are many more. If you missed them it is not surprising because most churches do not teach who is God's "seed" and who is God's chosen. You think the modern day Jewish faith is God's chosen or the bloodline are the inheritors of the promise made to Abraham? No, it is only through one "seed" which is Christ Jesus. He is the door.
@baptist_joshua_on_youtube Yes I don't claim all Jews are evil, but in the world they are very over represented in the ranks of powerful evil people. But so is the Vatican and English Royalty.
20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come. 21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come. 22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come. 23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. 25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. 27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father. 28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. 29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him. 30 As he spake these words, many believed on him. 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? 34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. 37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God. 48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil? 49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me. 50 And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth. 51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. 52 Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. 53 Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: 55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
"I am an ICU nurse," the woman, whom 2News is not identifying, wrote. "I am highly exposed to COVID patients. I am a firm believer in vaccines. I felt strongly that I needed to get the vaccine. Unfortunately, I found out that baby girl no longer had a heart beat last week. The size of baby at time of miscarriage correlates within a few days of my first dose of Pfizer vaccine. We had already heard baby girl's heart beat and were told that we had a less than 5% chance of miscarriage. I will never know if it was the vaccine, but I will always wonder. I am now fully vaccinated, but with my experience I don't think I would do it again."
so, it isn't just that a few vaccine recipients die. during 'normal' times (before March 2020), these vaccines would never have been approved by the FDA, as corrupt and useless as it was.
so people keep dies... and no one going to jail yet? and no one under heavy investigation even? and why i'm not surprised... sheeples still sleep. no one cares. america is not america anymore, i see no america soul in this countr.. i mean sheepyard. baaaaaa..... money! only "money" in every mind. HOW MANY MUST BE DIED MORE, before people will finally wake up? and stop this insanity.
@Rod Ross 254nm UV will destroy viruses but also cause skin cancer and sunburn, on the other hand, 222nm UV will destroy viruses without causing sunburn or skin cancer but lamps of that wavelength are expensive and hard to find.
You raise the humidity and that grounds any airborne viruses. A MERV 16 and above filters viruses. UV-C ( 254 nm ) will destroy viruses. I lived 20+ years in a biologically contaminated house that the Navy and Homeland Security said was contaminated by a biological weapon and the person who ran the school and is an licensed engineer who taught the top people in the nation and said ours was the worst they had every heard of . Anyone who entered our house, even to just use the bathroom died. I saved my family and I learned what works and what doesn’t. This COVID-19 is a joke compared to what I was exposed to. I saw the people who went into our house urinate blood ( they showed me the toilet after they went ) , collapse on the floor bleeding, I offered for them to take what I know works and they just insisted on going to the hospital where the Doctors said their kidneys and liver were under attack and they died. I tell you that whatever COVID-19 is I have seen something that the MDs said was far worse than Strep or MRSA or anything they knew of. And I survived all of that. I have full HEPA suits that are not a joke but I tell you any face covering whatsoever is better than none if you are facing something that is deadly. That is the truth. I know because I lived in the worst environment anyone on the planet has ever lived in and I did that for over 20 plus years everyday and lived to tell. I have the photos to prove that with me covered from head to toe in sores like you would not believe and the scientific reports from all branches including an licensed Engineer Industrial Hygienist. Even the professionals died who entered.
Anything that let's you get healthy without doctors is always expensive and hard to find. I buy products from a natural health business, and they are attacked constantly with "permits" and "testing efficacy" and on and on, and they prices go up continually.
@Robert Dinse you don't stare at that nor expose yourself to the ultra violet 254 nm. This is not for body decontamination. I was using that before it was commercially available and the research is clear that if you vary the wavelength it doesn't work.
@Robert Dinse I was under the direction of the nuclear physicist who ran Charleston. SC reactors. He was a professor PhD and also was in charge of the nuclear reactors in Charleston. What I learned I studied under him and I don't read anything since I did the labs myself with MRSA, Strep and worse. I saw the results and that was data enough for me.
@Robert Dinse I told you. You do not stare nor look at the light. You may put that on your cold coils in your HVAC. You may put that in a room with a timer or a remote on off switch. I had all of the above and more. I never exposed my body to any of that light. Using your analogy a welder would have melanoma too. I repeat, I am not even in the room and or the light is contained in the cold coil box of the HVAC. You may look through UV filters of protective glass to see the light but I don't even do that. It's completely enclosed or out of sight.
@Rod Ross Yes it's fine for applications where you aren't exposed, but most things you're worried about is naturally in areas where you ARE exposed, right now that being covid-19, which, 222nm HAS been shown to be effective against.
@Robert Dinse What are you disinfecting? Think about it? I had to change my sheets on my bed everyday. I had to change my clothes at least twice a day and wash everything and use fresh towels. UV-C is not going to penetrate your clothes or even the hair on your head, nor your ears or nose. You may clean surfaces but you may disinfect the air using your existing HVAC with a MERV 16 filter and followed by UV-C. You do not want to expose your body to any harmful UV ( see I agree with you ). Soap and water works for that and for surfaces and for clothes and sheets etc. When it's deadly like what i lived in you keep the humidity high and you clean all the time with something that works well and you may have additional HEPA filtration in the house. But I know what I used to bathe with and my father too and I also drank that and it saved our lives. You become contaminated and you have to treat what is inside of you, as my Doctor put in his words, before it, " attacks a vital organ and you die".
@Rod Ross One area I've seen these lamps used in is public restrooms. Yes, you could disinfect the sink for example with soap and water but who is going to come in and clean the faucets with soap and water everytime someone uses them? I do not disagree with you with respect to areas where 254 nm is not going to expose human occupants, 254nm UV sources are dirt cheap 209-222 nm, not so cheap, but 222nm lamps are being used in places like operating rooms where you want to maintain sterility but people will be exposed, and as I stated, public restrooms are another place these are being used.
@Robert Dinse the problem is penetration. And 254 nm does a better job yet no UV will penetrate very far. So, if you have a bread crumbs or even soap scum or dust that is carrying the germ ( or virus ) then the UV is ineffective because the Ultra Violet waves will not penetrate though solid objects including dust. You have to clean first or use UV-C then clean and use the UV-C again which is what I did and you may use UV-C continually at the 254 nm in filtration devices including your HVAC. Now back to the topic of masks. OSHA tells you that if you get on a roof ( any roof ) you need a 5,000 lb safety line tethered to you and someplace stable. My point is that no one abides by that rule ( especially illegal aliens ) when we had roofing crews do installations ( only Americans worked for us ) . And the masks are not effective just like this article proclaims but they are better than nothing at all and that I know. If you find yourself facing a deadly virus you treat that situation like everything thing is on fire and you cover your mouth and get out pf there and if you have a mask that is better than nothing. God bless.
@Rod Ross You're not going to get infected from where the UV won't go. As far as OSHA, they've promoted all sorts of ineffective nonsense. Yes masks reduce transmission by around 2%, if you're one of those 2-in-100 that don't get infected as a result then it's worth it to you, if you're one of the 98-out-of-100 that falsely assumed you were safe because you wore a mask, oh well. When it comes to something as small as a virus, nothing is 100%, else it wouldn't have escaped from the Wuhan lab, unless it was deliberate, and we know that couldn't be, right?
@Robert Dinse Let me clarify something that should be obvious. Dust maybe a carrier of the aiirborne virus and even a cloth over your mouth and nose may stop the dust.
@Rod Ross that's true. But again, transmission studies have shown the effectiveness of masks for Covid-19 transmission to be between 1-1/2% and 2-1/2%. I'll take whatever I can get but I just don't want anyone to have a false sense of security.
@Robert Dinse And as I already said, raising the humidity grounds all airborne matter including viruses. If you test the air when it rains, the air has no viruses or molds or anything. Because the humidity causes the particulate matter to fall to the ground.
@Rod Ross Yes but there are limits to the practicality of raising the humidity beyond a certain point. Certainly rain indoors would not be acceptable. I'm just going by what the studies show in terms of effectiveness in existing conditions.
@Robert Dinse 65% relative humidity ( which is not a good measure ) and above will ground everything inside. Sometimes lower humidity works too depending on other variables but it doesn't have to be raining.
@Rod Ross I find around 50% humidity to be comfortable, more than that and my sinuses stuff up. But the point that is relevant here is when I go some place in public, I have zero control over humidity or lighting, wearing a mask or not I do have control over however that has been proven to be far less effective than just staying the fuck away from people and since I trend on the anti-social side anyway, I go with that.
@Robert Dinse If you or anyone else is ever exposed to something deadly you should remove and discard everything you have on and bathe or wash and wash all your clothes you wore and your shoes too ASAP. The shoes are often overlooked and forgotten about but shoes are the worst. They are talking about masks and distancing but no mention of shoes. Shoes are carriers, You are correct, high humidity is not something you normally want inside. I am just talking about an emergency situation where you know you have a airborne biological that is deadly. I enjoy your company and if I sound mean, that is not my intention. Thanks Robert and God bless.
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I am reading Profiles in Corruption, by Peter Schweizer. It starts with this greedy, power hungry user. I have to read it in short sessions, it is beyond disgusting. I got past her and Biden, now I'm on to Spartacus. It is unbelievable how horrible these people are, and they now run everything..
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